presidential election, followed by what happened in newtown, then the attack in libya down the list. guest: it is in the top 10 but it has never become the focus. ironically, for those who think it is a scandal -- i remember some people said the watergate of our time. mitt romney had every opportunity and the debates to make hay with this issue and did not do it. host: mike, good morning. caller: good morning. mr. williams, merry christmas. after obama campaign in to one 2008 to reduce the deficit and then double it, do you think the american electorate was cognizant of the fact that obama doubled in it instead of cutting it in half? why don't the american people care about the debt of the united states of america? guest: i do think they care about it. the economy is the number-one issue. guess what? then it comes down to things like jobs. then you come to the debt. it is not that americans are out of touch with the idea that the government is spending more money than we are taking in. there is lots of concern about whether or not the chinese is holding our debt. so, americans are ve